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  HELP needed from folks in UK, esp. in Scotland!

  by WTS Archive in

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  tl;dr: if you live either in scotland or in other parts of uk and you don't mind traveling, you might be able to help a fellow ex-jw by being present during a courtcase where she alone has to face more than two dozens of jws who have ruined their business.

  please contact me directly for details on when and where the court case will be held (i will know these details in few days probably).

  ps.

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  awake living free

  Damn, now I really want a pastie - Simon

  You might want a beer with that pastie after tonight's result simon ;)
  
  
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  Big news from Kim and Mikey, they state in thier latest video proof the WT invested in the Nazi war machine!!

  by Crazyguy in

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  this is big!

  according to what they say if i'm correct an investigation was done back in 1998 in concerning what american companies invested money in to germany.

  mike and kim state that a document they have attained shows a list of american firms that had invested into germany as late as 1943. on this list is non other then watchtower !!

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  awake living free

  This was cleared up in the thread below:

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5206357412151296/wts-investment-ford-werke-1943
  

  ALF
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  What Songs Best Fit you when you learned TATT and Afterwards?

  by Wasanelder Once in

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  the work of john lennon best fit my situation.

  first, i found out.

  i found out.

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  awake living free

  Around my time of leaving Jake Bugg's "Two Fingers" was getting a lot of airplay here in the uk:

  "I got out I got out I'm alive but I'm here to stay.....hey hey it's fine I left it behind" very apt.

  All the best

  ALF
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  Funny stories how u got caught while secretly smoking

  by Gefangene in

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  hey folks.

  to those of you who were secrely smoking while being a jw how did your cover get blown?

  do you have any funny stories to share even if at that time they may not have been funny at all due to impending consequences.

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  awake living free

  This has brought back an amusing memory I cant believe it's over 30 years ago now.

  The son of an elder in his early teens having a smoke on his way to school. To get to school you had to cross a main road by way of a zebra crossing. On this occasion the car waiting at the zebra crossing was being driven by another elder in the congregation!!!

  All these years on he's still in and i'm long gone and have never smoked in my life.

  alf
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  Copyright of 'Crisis of Conscience'

  by AntiEntropy in

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  2. friends

  hello,.

  i hope to translate coc into a foreign language.. who can own the copyright of that meaningful book?.

  i've tried to reach 'commentary press' with all the ways i can use, but i've not been able to communicate with anyone so far.. this project is not a commercial one but i hope to make sure of the copyright thing.. any help will be appreciated!.

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  awake living free

  'A can of worms' you no doubt have come to appreciate the saying AntiEntropy. Do you have a similar saying in korean that translates?

  The time and effort you put into translating CoC and getting it out there is highly commendable and i hope it helps many more wake up.

  Alf
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  Hubby got asked the loyalty questions

  by atacrossroads in

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  2. friends

  after hubby skipped out on the memorial his parents and close friends started getting more assertive with him.

  before they took on the role of the concerned let me rescue you from your apostate wife's clutches.

  it's 100% my fault he stopped being a witness according to the inlaws.

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  awake living free

  To think when questioned by angus stewart qc at the arc last year geoffry jackson (gb) said that jws have the freedom to leave! Yeah right... Really feel for you and your hubby, some of these elders are like dogs with a bone. The extent of the mind control with some of your family sounds to be off the scale, its like east berlin and the stazi. I wish you both the best, tough it out and hope the experience can draw you closer together.

  Alf
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  Korean News : CoC in Korean

  by AntiEntropy in

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  hi bros.. after my father's publishing his book, "15 questions after 40 years of jw" , many ex-jw bros in korea became motivated to rush to the coc korean project.

  however any secular project needs a fund eventhough it's a not-for-profit.

  fortunately, a bunch of bros decided to donate generously $300~$7,000 to this unprofitable business.

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  awake living free

  References were lost when I posted this earlier so, posting again...

  Hadriel, 4 months ago you said the following on another thread about CoC when asked by ToesUp if you had read it.

  ToesUp

  Yep, although it was after I had already woke. Honestly I went about it the very hard way. I used only society pubs and secular history. What pretty much put the nail in the coffin was 607. The fact the organization has held onto that teaching is beyond me. The more that find out about it the more there will be that leave.

  So using only their own pubs and a few emails with museums, archaeologists and the like I realized it was impossible for 607 to be true. At the turn of the last century many of the tablets in the Neo-Babylonian area had yet to be found or translated. Now we have thousands.

  Subsequent to my own digging I fell upon "Gentile Times Reconsidered". The author in my opinion is the leading authority on this topic. I had dug many hours coming to my conclusion. I read this man's book and realized I hadn't even scratched the surface.

  That then led me to Franz's book which I read without putting it down. Cover to cover. You simply can't read that book and stay a witness. At least not in good conscience.

  But from the comments you have made in this thread am I to understand that if you'd known there was to be a new revised edition you would still be waiting to read it! Hadriel?

  (I also wanted to include some of the earlier statements you have made in this thread but I can't quote them using my phone without losing the above)

  Alf
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  Korean News : CoC in Korean

  by AntiEntropy in

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  hi bros.. after my father's publishing his book, "15 questions after 40 years of jw" , many ex-jw bros in korea became motivated to rush to the coc korean project.

  however any secular project needs a fund eventhough it's a not-for-profit.

  fortunately, a bunch of bros decided to donate generously $300~$7,000 to this unprofitable business.

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  awake living free

  ToesUp

  Yep, although it was after I had already woke. Honestly I went about it the very hard way. I used only society pubs and secular history. What pretty much put the nail in the coffin was 607. The fact the organization has held onto that teaching is beyond me. The more that find out about it the more there will be that leave.

  So using only their own pubs and a few emails with museums, archaeologists and the like I realized it was impossible for 607 to be true. At the turn of the last century many of the tablets in the Neo-Babylonian area had yet to be found or translated. Now we have thousands.

  Subsequent to my own digging I fell upon "Gentile Times Reconsidered". The author in my opinion is the leading authority on this topic. I had dug many hours coming to my conclusion. I read this man's book and realized I hadn't even scratched the surface.

  That then led me to Franz's book which I read without putting it down. Cover to cover. You simply can't read that book and stay a witness. At least not in good conscience.

  But if you'd known there was to be a new revised edition you wouldn't have read it yet! Is that what I'm to understand Hadriel?

  Alf
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  Andersonsinfo question: Who wrote them?

  by TheOldHippie in

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  2. beliefs

  since you have taken so much time in answering questions and commenting, i ask one more question:.

  could you elaborate on who wrote certain books and brochures etc.?

  i know you have written about articles you have contributed to, and also that coc lists the authors of some of the books, but do you remember at least some authors of some books / brochures / special articles?.

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  awake living free

  A very informative and interesting thread. Bumping for us newbies

  Alf
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  Preservation (1932) JF Rutherford...I got one yesterday

  by punkofnice in

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  2. bible

  imagine my surprise when i found a copy of this book at a charity (goodwill) stand.

  i brought it.. i plan to sell it and hope it goes to an apostate™not a jw completist.. .

  i wonder how much it would be worth in uk money?.

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  awake living free

  Hi Punkofnice, it can be purchased for £31.23 online at revival books through Amazon. Hope you can still turn a profit, maybe a little beer money

  All the best...

  alf